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Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill
Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill
Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill

Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill

Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill
Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill
Sole Fitness F85 Folding Treadmill
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Features

  • Treadmill offers an industry-leading warranty and a proprietary Cushion Flex Whisper Deck, shown in a study to reduce impact on your joints by up to 40% compared to running on asphalt
  • 4.0 CHP, DC Type motor with 0.5-to-12 MPH speed range, 0-to-15% rack-and-pinion gear design incline, two-ply belt, pulse grip and chest strap heart rate monitoring
  • Six standard programs, two custom programs, and two heart programs; cooling fans and MP3-compatible sound system; nine-inch LCD workout display
  • Measures 35 by 58 by 80 inches (W x H x D); deck measures 35 by 80 inches (W x D) and running surface measures 22 by 60 inches (W x D); 265-pound weight and 400-pound weight limit; 2.75-inch rollers
  • Includes the following manufacturer's warranties against defects in materials and workmanship: lifetime on frame, motor, and deck; five years on electronics; and two years on labor

Description

As the top model of the folding series, the F85 treadmill offers a 4.0 Cont. Duty HP motor with output and performance second to none. The F85 also incorporates the largest deck that SOLE offers, an exceptional 22" wide running surface that is comfortable for any runner. Just press a button and take your stride to speeds up to 12 mph and inclines up to 15-Percent. This model has six standard programs, two user customization programs, and two heart rate control programs. Other features include a low-noise, shock absorption Cushion Flex deck, our longest commercial sized belt, and low profile running hood. It also comes with speed and incline controls on the handlebars, built in cooling fans for comfort and a sound system for any MP3 player, iPod, etc. As will all SOLE folding models the deck locks into place when not in use, 100-Percent secure. As the top model of the SOLE folding series, the F85 treadmill offers a 4.0 continuous duty HP motor with output and performance second to none. The F85 also incorporates the largest deck that SOLE offers, a 22-inch wide running surface that, at the push of a button, adjusts between speeds of 0-to-12 MPH and an incline of 0-to15%. This model has six standard programs, two user customization programs, and two heart rate control programs. The heart-rate control option automatically calculates your recommended target range based on your age. So you can be assured of the most efficient and safest workout possible. Other features include a low-noise, shock absorption Cushion Flex deck, the company's longest commercial sized belt, and a low profile running hood. A vibrant LED display includes a message board for clear instruction and feedback. The information that is displayed at all times includes Speed, Incline, Time, Distance Traveled, Calories, Pulse and Pace, and there is also a 1/4 mile track feature and a Peak and Valley graph for different programs. The console also has built in speakers which allow you to hook up any MP3 player to listen to your favorite playlist during your workout. Technology Dimensions Controls & Features Warranties This piece of SOLE equipment includes the following manufacturer's warranties against defects in materials and workmanship:


Product Dimensions: 85.4 x 37 x 17.3 inches ; 265 pounds


Shipping Weight: 301 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)


Domestic Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses. For APO/FPO shipments, please check with the manufacturer regarding warranty and support issues.


International Shipping: This item is not eligible for international shipping. Learn More


ASIN: B0090X05V2


Item model number: F85-2013


Customer Reviews: 3.7 out of 5 stars 99 customer reviews


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #389,372 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #321 in Treadmills


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Returns

This product can be returned within 30 days of delivery for a full refund. Please visit our returns center to begin a return.

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Features

  • Treadmill offers an industry-leading warranty and a proprietary Cushion Flex Whisper Deck, shown in a study to reduce impact on your joints by up to 40% compared to running on asphalt
  • 4.0 CHP, DC Type motor with 0.5-to-12 MPH speed range, 0-to-15% rack-and-pinion gear design incline, two-ply belt, pulse grip and chest strap heart rate monitoring
  • Six standard programs, two custom programs, and two heart programs; cooling fans and MP3-compatible sound system; nine-inch LCD workout display
  • Measures 35 by 58 by 80 inches (W x H x D); deck measures 35 by 80 inches (W x D) and running surface measures 22 by 60 inches (W x D); 265-pound weight and 400-pound weight limit; 2.75-inch rollers
  • Includes the following manufacturer's warranties against defects in materials and workmanship: lifetime on frame, motor, and deck; five years on electronics; and two years on labor

Description

As the top model of the folding series, the F85 treadmill offers a 4.0 Cont. Duty HP motor with output and performance second to none. The F85 also incorporates the largest deck that SOLE offers, an exceptional 22" wide running surface that is comfortable for any runner. Just press a button and take your stride to speeds up to 12 mph and inclines up to 15-Percent. This model has six standard programs, two user customization programs, and two heart rate control programs. Other features include a low-noise, shock absorption Cushion Flex deck, our longest commercial sized belt, and low profile running hood. It also comes with speed and incline controls on the handlebars, built in cooling fans for comfort and a sound system for any MP3 player, iPod, etc. As will all SOLE folding models the deck locks into place when not in use, 100-Percent secure. As the top model of the SOLE folding series, the F85 treadmill offers a 4.0 continuous duty HP motor with output and performance second to none. The F85 also incorporates the largest deck that SOLE offers, a 22-inch wide running surface that, at the push of a button, adjusts between speeds of 0-to-12 MPH and an incline of 0-to15%. This model has six standard programs, two user customization programs, and two heart rate control programs. The heart-rate control option automatically calculates your recommended target range based on your age. So you can be assured of the most efficient and safest workout possible. Other features include a low-noise, shock absorption Cushion Flex deck, the company's longest commercial sized belt, and a low profile running hood. A vibrant LED display includes a message board for clear instruction and feedback. The information that is displayed at all times includes Speed, Incline, Time, Distance Traveled, Calories, Pulse and Pace, and there is also a 1/4 mile track feature and a Peak and Valley graph for different programs. The console also has built in speakers which allow you to hook up any MP3 player to listen to your favorite playlist during your workout. Technology Dimensions Controls & Features Warranties This piece of SOLE equipment includes the following manufacturer's warranties against defects in materials and workmanship:


Product Dimensions: 85.4 x 37 x 17.3 inches ; 265 pounds


Shipping Weight: 301 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)


Domestic Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses. For APO/FPO shipments, please check with the manufacturer regarding warranty and support issues.


International Shipping: This item is not eligible for international shipping. Learn More


ASIN: B0090X05V2


Item model number: F85-2013


Customer Reviews: 3.7 out of 5 stars 99 customer reviews


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #389,372 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #321 in Treadmills


Shipping

This product includes free shipping to all US addresses.


Delivery

Unless otherwise stated above, most products arrive within 2-3 business days. Larger items may take 6-9 business days. Tracking information will be automatically provided as soon as your order ships.


View our full shipping policy here.

Returns

This product can be returned within 30 days of delivery for a full refund. Please visit our returns center to begin a return.

View our full returns policy here.

Features

  • Treadmill offers an industry-leading warranty and a proprietary Cushion Flex Whisper Deck, shown in a study to reduce impact on your joints by up to 40% compared to running on asphalt
  • 4.0 CHP, DC Type motor with 0.5-to-12 MPH speed range, 0-to-15% rack-and-pinion gear design incline, two-ply belt, pulse grip and chest strap heart rate monitoring
  • Six standard programs, two custom programs, and two heart programs; cooling fans and MP3-compatible sound system; nine-inch LCD workout display
  • Measures 35 by 58 by 80 inches (W x H x D); deck measures 35 by 80 inches (W x D) and running surface measures 22 by 60 inches (W x D); 265-pound weight and 400-pound weight limit; 2.75-inch rollers
  • Includes the following manufacturer's warranties against defects in materials and workmanship: lifetime on frame, motor, and deck; five years on electronics; and two years on labor

Description

As the top model of the folding series, the F85 treadmill offers a 4.0 Cont. Duty HP motor with output and performance second to none. The F85 also incorporates the largest deck that SOLE offers, an exceptional 22" wide running surface that is comfortable for any runner. Just press a button and take your stride to speeds up to 12 mph and inclines up to 15-Percent. This model has six standard programs, two user customization programs, and two heart rate control programs. Other features include a low-noise, shock absorption Cushion Flex deck, our longest commercial sized belt, and low profile running hood. It also comes with speed and incline controls on the handlebars, built in cooling fans for comfort and a sound system for any MP3 player, iPod, etc. As will all SOLE folding models the deck locks into place when not in use, 100-Percent secure. As the top model of the SOLE folding series, the F85 treadmill offers a 4.0 continuous duty HP motor with output and performance second to none. The F85 also incorporates the largest deck that SOLE offers, a 22-inch wide running surface that, at the push of a button, adjusts between speeds of 0-to-12 MPH and an incline of 0-to15%. This model has six standard programs, two user customization programs, and two heart rate control programs. The heart-rate control option automatically calculates your recommended target range based on your age. So you can be assured of the most efficient and safest workout possible. Other features include a low-noise, shock absorption Cushion Flex deck, the company's longest commercial sized belt, and a low profile running hood. A vibrant LED display includes a message board for clear instruction and feedback. The information that is displayed at all times includes Speed, Incline, Time, Distance Traveled, Calories, Pulse and Pace, and there is also a 1/4 mile track feature and a Peak and Valley graph for different programs. The console also has built in speakers which allow you to hook up any MP3 player to listen to your favorite playlist during your workout. Technology Dimensions Controls & Features Warranties This piece of SOLE equipment includes the following manufacturer's warranties against defects in materials and workmanship:


Product Dimensions: 85.4 x 37 x 17.3 inches ; 265 pounds


Shipping Weight: 301 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)


Domestic Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses. For APO/FPO shipments, please check with the manufacturer regarding warranty and support issues.


International Shipping: This item is not eligible for international shipping. Learn More


ASIN: B0090X05V2


Item model number: F85-2013


Customer Reviews: 3.7 out of 5 stars 99 customer reviews


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #389,372 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #321 in Treadmills


abunda_amazon_reviews If you're a big person (400 lbs & 6'5") like I am, this is the treadmill for you. I had been shopping for a treadmill for months but because of my size, I wasn't having much luck. All of the consumer grade machines out there had a weight capacity of only 300 to 350 lbs. I was losing hope then I found the Sole F-85. I have to admit, I was nervous about dropping 1900 dollars on a product without having the opportunity to try it but this treadmill didn't disappoint. It was took about 2 and a half hours to assemble it. The printed instructions were somewhat lacking but luckily there are videos on youtube which show the whole process step by step. As soon as I pulled my F-85 out of the box, I was impressed. Most home treadmills are small and fragile looking. That wasn't the case with the the F-85. Even though it's not a commercial grade unit, you wouldn't know by looking at it. This sucker is BIG and STURDY and it handles my weight without any difficulty. Now granted, I only use my treadmill for walking but most treadmills I've tried for home gyms will slow down or even stop if I step down too hard. The Sole doesn't even strain itself. It just keeps chuggin' NOW... The Sole doesn't have a touch screen or a video monitor that shows you pretty scenery. But for a $1900 price tag, you can't beat it with a stick. This is as good as almost any machine I've used at healthclubs. It's long enough that you don't have to shorten your strides. It's got a very user friendly LED display panel with large easy to read characters and the button controls are clearly marked and concise. It took me about 5 minutes to figure everything out. BOTTOM LINE... If you're a big person and you want a piece of equipment that delivers the goods without breaking your budget. YOU GOTTA GET YOU ONE OF THESE!!! :-);;April 14, 2016;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;THIS IS THE ONE!!!;;Lisa Whitt;;;This is without a doubt the very best consumer treadmill I have ever used! Still performs as good today as it did the day I bought it 2 years ago! Stronger more powerful motor than most treadmills, and the longest warranty in it's class, a ton of programmable features for tailoring your workouts, plus fans and speakers to attach your smart phone for music or videos while running. It even programs hills into it's features! It also folds up to minimize it's storage footprint.;;August 22, 2017;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Sole Fitness F85 is food for the Soul;;Limitless;;;I just received and assembled the F85. I really like. We have an older Nordic Track which, for it's age, is still good. But I needed something that would be easier on my knees. Since I've been in the electronic business for over 30 years, I tend to go for things with less Bells and Whistles. i.e. Less things to go wrong. You don't need an app to make toast, and in my option, you don't need an app to run your treadmill. I'm sure that in the long run, that's the way every thing will go. But for now, if I want to get on the Internet or view Google Maps Street View, I'll just throw my Kindle or my Surface tablet on the book rest. The display panel has lots of information without being too crowded/distracting. Also, I prefer the button interface instead of a tough screen. You're not navigating a complex OS, you're simple selecting a workout mode, starting and stopping the program, and maybe making a few speed or incline adjustments along the way. Touch may be cool, but extreme overkill in this case. NOTE: When I was unpacking the unit, I found that the plastic cover over the motor had a crack in it. Sole sent out a replacement cover with no questions asked. The tech support guy was cautious and very helpful. Excellent first impression.;;August 19, 2014;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Initial observation, I like it.;;Amazon Customer;;;Solid treadmill, easy to set up (took about an hour while I was watching TV) and runs incredibly smooth. I've owned a couple of other mid-range treadmills and this setup blows them all away. No deck bounce, no belt surges while you're running and the controls are dead easy. And if someone hasn't posted a video of the hydraulic transition from folded to floor, let me tell you, it's super cool. Once folded (which my 12 yr old can lift) there is a handle on the underside to allow the deck to lower. Once you flip the handle the deck drops slowly from completely folded to ready to use-- just step back and watch it drop.;;September 12, 2015;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Great treadmill, Love the hydraulic drop assist.;;TxF;;;I have now had the f85 for 2 weeks and I really like it. I use it for running and not walking so finding a treadmill with a solid deck and good motor was very important. The deck construction on the f85 is very solid and the treadmill is pretty quiet. I would recommend this to anyone whose emphasis is on a strong treadmill and NOT on frills. The speakers are average at best and the volume cannot be controlled from console. I prefer to use my headphones. It does not get very hot where I live so the fans are not as important but they are not very powerful. If you live in a hot climate the fans would not even be a factor with only one speed. Also, as others have mentioned when doing interval work, it takes the treadmill a while to change speeds after you push the buttons. It is much more gradual at switching speeds than most treadmills. It also would have been nice to have a console that had ifit or training programs availabe since the technology has become so affordable. I still give this 4 stars despite the flaws because of the durability.;;June 14, 2015;;4.0 out of 5 stars;;Focuses on durability and not frills;;osubeav21

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Delivery

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Returns

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Top Amazon Reviews


5.0 out of 5 stars
By Lisa Whitt - April 14, 2016
THIS IS THE ONE!!!
If you're a big person (400 lbs & 6'5") like I am, this is the treadmill for you. I had been shopping for a treadmill for months but because of my size, I wasn't having much luck. All of the consumer grade machines out there had a weight capacity of only 300 to 350 lbs. I was losing hope then I found the Sole F-85. I have to admit, I was nervous about dropping 1900 dollars on a product without having the opportunity to try it but this treadmill didn't disappoint. It was took about 2 and a half hours to assemble it. The printed instructions were somewhat lacking but luckily there are videos on youtube which show the whole process step by step. As soon as I pulled my F-85 out of the box, I was impressed. Most home treadmills are small and fragile looking. That wasn't the case with the the F-85. Even though it's not a commercial grade unit, you wouldn't know by looking at it. This sucker is BIG and STURDY and it handles my weight without any difficulty. Now granted, I only use my treadmill for walking but most treadmills I've tried for home gyms will slow down or even stop if I step down too hard. The Sole doesn't even strain itself. It just keeps chuggin' NOW... The Sole doesn't have a touch screen or a video monitor that shows you pretty scenery. But for a $1900 price tag, you can't beat it with a stick. This is as good as almost any machine I've used at healthclubs. It's long enough that you don't have to shorten your strides. It's got a very user friendly LED display panel with large easy to read characters and the button controls are clearly marked and concise. It took me about 5 minutes to figure everything out. BOTTOM LINE... If you're a big person and you want a piece of equipment that delivers the goods without breaking your budget. YOU GOTTA GET YOU ONE OF THESE!!! :-)

5.0 out of 5 stars
By Limitless - August 22, 2017
Sole Fitness F85 is food for the Soul
This is without a doubt the very best consumer treadmill I have ever used! Still performs as good today as it did the day I bought it 2 years ago! Stronger more powerful motor than most treadmills, and the longest warranty in it's class, a ton of programmable features for tailoring your workouts, plus fans and speakers to attach your smart phone for music or videos while running. It even programs hills into it's features! It also folds up to minimize it's storage footprint.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By Amazon Customer - August 19, 2014
Initial observation, I like it.
I just received and assembled the F85. I really like. We have an older Nordic Track which, for it's age, is still good. But I needed something that would be easier on my knees. Since I've been in the electronic business for over 30 years, I tend to go for things with less Bells and Whistles. i.e. Less things to go wrong. You don't need an app to make toast, and in my option, you don't need an app to run your treadmill. I'm sure that in the long run, that's the way every thing will go. But for now, if I want to get on the Internet or view Google Maps Street View, I'll just throw my Kindle or my Surface tablet on the book rest. The display panel has lots of information without being too crowded/distracting. Also, I prefer the button interface instead of a tough screen. You're not navigating a complex OS, you're simple selecting a workout mode, starting and stopping the program, and maybe making a few speed or incline adjustments along the way. Touch may be cool, but extreme overkill in this case. NOTE: When I was unpacking the unit, I found that the plastic cover over the motor had a crack in it. Sole sent out a replacement cover with no questions asked. The tech support guy was cautious and very helpful. Excellent first impression.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By TxF - September 12, 2015
Great treadmill, Love the hydraulic drop assist.
Solid treadmill, easy to set up (took about an hour while I was watching TV) and runs incredibly smooth. I've owned a couple of other mid-range treadmills and this setup blows them all away. No deck bounce, no belt surges while you're running and the controls are dead easy. And if someone hasn't posted a video of the hydraulic transition from folded to floor, let me tell you, it's super cool. Once folded (which my 12 yr old can lift) there is a handle on the underside to allow the deck to lower. Once you flip the handle the deck drops slowly from completely folded to ready to use-- just step back and watch it drop.

4.0 out of 5 stars
By osubeav21 - June 14, 2015
Focuses on durability and not frills
I have now had the f85 for 2 weeks and I really like it. I use it for running and not walking so finding a treadmill with a solid deck and good motor was very important. The deck construction on the f85 is very solid and the treadmill is pretty quiet. I would recommend this to anyone whose emphasis is on a strong treadmill and NOT on frills. The speakers are average at best and the volume cannot be controlled from console. I prefer to use my headphones. It does not get very hot where I live so the fans are not as important but they are not very powerful. If you live in a hot climate the fans would not even be a factor with only one speed. Also, as others have mentioned when doing interval work, it takes the treadmill a while to change speeds after you push the buttons. It is much more gradual at switching speeds than most treadmills. It also would have been nice to have a console that had ifit or training programs availabe since the technology has become so affordable. I still give this 4 stars despite the flaws because of the durability.

Recent Reviews


5.0 out of 5 stars
By Lisa Whitt - April 14, 2016
THIS IS THE ONE!!!
If you're a big person (400 lbs & 6'5") like I am, this is the treadmill for you. I had been shopping for a treadmill for months but because of my size, I wasn't having much luck. All of the consumer grade machines out there had a weight capacity of only 300 to 350 lbs. I was losing hope then I found the Sole F-85. I have to admit, I was nervous about dropping 1900 dollars on a product without having the opportunity to try it but this treadmill didn't disappoint. It was took about 2 and a half hours to assemble it. The printed instructions were somewhat lacking but luckily there are videos on youtube which show the whole process step by step. As soon as I pulled my F-85 out of the box, I was impressed. Most home treadmills are small and fragile looking. That wasn't the case with the the F-85. Even though it's not a commercial grade unit, you wouldn't know by looking at it. This sucker is BIG and STURDY and it handles my weight without any difficulty. Now granted, I only use my treadmill for walking but most treadmills I've tried for home gyms will slow down or even stop if I step down too hard. The Sole doesn't even strain itself. It just keeps chuggin' NOW... The Sole doesn't have a touch screen or a video monitor that shows you pretty scenery. But for a $1900 price tag, you can't beat it with a stick. This is as good as almost any machine I've used at healthclubs. It's long enough that you don't have to shorten your strides. It's got a very user friendly LED display panel with large easy to read characters and the button controls are clearly marked and concise. It took me about 5 minutes to figure everything out. BOTTOM LINE... If you're a big person and you want a piece of equipment that delivers the goods without breaking your budget. YOU GOTTA GET YOU ONE OF THESE!!! :-)

5.0 out of 5 stars
By Limitless - August 22, 2017
Sole Fitness F85 is food for the Soul
This is without a doubt the very best consumer treadmill I have ever used! Still performs as good today as it did the day I bought it 2 years ago! Stronger more powerful motor than most treadmills, and the longest warranty in it's class, a ton of programmable features for tailoring your workouts, plus fans and speakers to attach your smart phone for music or videos while running. It even programs hills into it's features! It also folds up to minimize it's storage footprint.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By Amazon Customer - August 19, 2014
Initial observation, I like it.
I just received and assembled the F85. I really like. We have an older Nordic Track which, for it's age, is still good. But I needed something that would be easier on my knees. Since I've been in the electronic business for over 30 years, I tend to go for things with less Bells and Whistles. i.e. Less things to go wrong. You don't need an app to make toast, and in my option, you don't need an app to run your treadmill. I'm sure that in the long run, that's the way every thing will go. But for now, if I want to get on the Internet or view Google Maps Street View, I'll just throw my Kindle or my Surface tablet on the book rest. The display panel has lots of information without being too crowded/distracting. Also, I prefer the button interface instead of a tough screen. You're not navigating a complex OS, you're simple selecting a workout mode, starting and stopping the program, and maybe making a few speed or incline adjustments along the way. Touch may be cool, but extreme overkill in this case. NOTE: When I was unpacking the unit, I found that the plastic cover over the motor had a crack in it. Sole sent out a replacement cover with no questions asked. The tech support guy was cautious and very helpful. Excellent first impression.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By TxF - September 12, 2015
Great treadmill, Love the hydraulic drop assist.
Solid treadmill, easy to set up (took about an hour while I was watching TV) and runs incredibly smooth. I've owned a couple of other mid-range treadmills and this setup blows them all away. No deck bounce, no belt surges while you're running and the controls are dead easy. And if someone hasn't posted a video of the hydraulic transition from folded to floor, let me tell you, it's super cool. Once folded (which my 12 yr old can lift) there is a handle on the underside to allow the deck to lower. Once you flip the handle the deck drops slowly from completely folded to ready to use-- just step back and watch it drop.

4.0 out of 5 stars
By osubeav21 - June 14, 2015
Focuses on durability and not frills
I have now had the f85 for 2 weeks and I really like it. I use it for running and not walking so finding a treadmill with a solid deck and good motor was very important. The deck construction on the f85 is very solid and the treadmill is pretty quiet. I would recommend this to anyone whose emphasis is on a strong treadmill and NOT on frills. The speakers are average at best and the volume cannot be controlled from console. I prefer to use my headphones. It does not get very hot where I live so the fans are not as important but they are not very powerful. If you live in a hot climate the fans would not even be a factor with only one speed. Also, as others have mentioned when doing interval work, it takes the treadmill a while to change speeds after you push the buttons. It is much more gradual at switching speeds than most treadmills. It also would have been nice to have a console that had ifit or training programs availabe since the technology has become so affordable. I still give this 4 stars despite the flaws because of the durability.