V-Moda BoomPro Microphone | for Gaming & Communication | Wired - 3.5 mm Jack | Flexible Boom | Clip-on Controller with Mute Button & Volume Wheel | Black
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Style: Boom Mic
Features
- A first-class mic for communication and gaming, with improved voice clarity and reduced background noise
- Ideal for working from home and gaming
- Detachable for maximum compatibility and optimal use; flexible boom for ideal microphone positioning
- Robust thanks to a reinforced but lightweight cable and a 24-carat gold-plated connector
- A clip-on controller with a Mute button and a volume wheel
- Compatible with all V-MODA Crossfade series headphones and 3.5 mm (1/8") cable input headphones
- Note - Compatibility may vary depending on the specific model and version of the headphones. Always refer to the manufacturer's specifications and compatibility lists for accurate information
Description
The BoomPro Microphone is the detachable, flexible, and state-of-the-art boom microphone for communication and gaming. It enhances voice clarity and reduces background noise, an essential for gaming and conference calls. It’s built to last with a durable reinforced cable, 24K gold-plated plug and flexible boom arm that’s adjustable to be positioned wherever you like. The control clip has built-in mute and rotary volume controls. Compatible with all smartphones, tablets, PCs, notebooks and gaming consoles via 3. 5mm plug and headphones with a 3. 5mm cable input.Source Compatibility:Sony PlayStation 4Sony PlayStation VitaSony PlayStation 3 (needs third party adapter)Microsoft Xbox OneUpdated Xbox One Controller w/3.5mm (1/8") headphone jack (no adapter needed)Original Xbox One Controller needs official Microsoft headset adapterMicrosoft Xbox 360 (needs third party adapter)Smartphones, tablets, PCs and notebooks via 1/8" (3.5mm) plug From the Manufacturer V-MODA
Recommended Uses For Product: Gaming
Brand: V-Moda
Model Name: V-MODA BoomPro Microphone | For Gaming & Communication | Wired - 3.5 mm Jack | Flexible Boom | Clip-on Controller With Mute Button & Volume Wheel | Black See more
Connectivity Technology: Auxiliary
Connector Type: 3.5 mm Jack
Special Feature: Lightweight, Microphone Feature, Tangle-Free Cord, Volume Control
Compatible Devices: Sony PlayStation® 4 Sony PlayStation® Vita Sony PlayStation® 3 (needs third party adapter) Microsoft Xbox One Updated Xbox One Controller w/3.5mm (1/8") headphone jack (no adapter needed) Original Xbox One Controller needs official Microsoft headset adapter Microsoft Xbox 360 (needs third party adapter) Smartphones, tablets, PCs and notebooks via 1/8" (3.5mm) plug See more
Color: Black
Included Components: BoomPro Microphone
Polar Pattern: Unidirectional
Connectivity Technology: Auxiliary
Connector Type: 3.5 mm Jack
Special Feature: Lightweight, Microphone Feature, Tangle-Free Cord, Volume Control
Compatible Devices: Sony PlayStation® 4 Sony PlayStation® Vita Sony PlayStation® 3 (needs third party adapter) Microsoft Xbox One Updated Xbox One Controller w/3.5mm (1/8") headphone jack (no adapter needed) Original Xbox One Controller needs official Microsoft headset adapter Microsoft Xbox 360 (needs third party adapter) Smartphones, tablets, PCs and notebooks via 1/8" (3.5mm) plug
Polar Pattern: Unidirectional
Audio Sensitivity: 58 Decibels
Microphone Form Factor: Boom
Power Source: Corded Electric
Number of Batteries: 1 Lithium Ion batteries required.
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 58 dB
Hardware Platform: Gaming Console
Number of Channels: 1
Audible Noise: 58 Decibels
Color: Black
Enclosure Material: Metal
Item Weight: 0.17 Pounds
Item Dimensions: 1.2 x 4 x 7.1 inches
Antenna Location: Gaming
Brand: V-Moda
Model Name: V-MODA BoomPro Microphone | For Gaming & Communication | Wired - 3.5 mm Jack | Flexible Boom | Clip-on Controller With Mute Button & Volume Wheel | Black
Model Number: C-100
Built-In Media: BoomPro Microphone
Global Trade Identification Number: 49
Manufacturer: Roland
UPC: 877653005849 741921371694 741921361350 780746620044
Mfr Part Number: C-BP-BLACK
Warranty Description: 1-Year
Unit Count: 1.0 Count
External Testing Certification: Não aplicável
Item Type Name: V-MODA BoomPro Microphone for Gaming & Communication, Compatible with XBOX One, XBOX Series X, XBOX Series S, PS4, PS5, MAC, PC, Nintendo Switch
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I'm writing this review as an update because i notice most of the other reviews seem to be a little old and didn't really address the questions i needed answered before I purchased. after hours of research, i still felt like i was taking a risk by buying this, so here goes my attempt to help some people before buying it: First and foremost, I purchased these to use on an XBOX ONE with my brand new BEATS PRO HEADPHONES that i bought a few days ago at a black friday sale. I have BOTH microphone adapters for my controllers, that is to say, I have the adapters with and without the keyboard. I figured since my Samsung Galaxy headphones worked great, a pair of Beats would be even better. i was wrong. I was sorely disappointed to find that the original microphone cable would not transmit the sound of my voice, and it felt like i had just wasted a few hundred bucks. Especially after i asked around at best buy and the associates told me that beats headphones wouldn't work with anything besides a Beats brand cable. That seemed odd, so i did more research of my own... which brings me to the meat and potatoes of my review. after viewing a few videos on YouTube, i stumbled upon this cable. Let me tell you right out the gate that IT WORKS PERFECTLY WITH MY BEATS AS IS. the quality is actually much better than I had even anticipated and I didn't even need to buy any extra adapters. Just plug and play. that's why I'm giving it 5 stars. Definitely worth the 30 dollar investment to make good use of a set of headphones you already have instead of buying another set of Two or Three hundred dollar headphones to achieve the very same quality. Now that we've got that settled, I'd like to address some questions I had that i couldn't find an answer to. Here's what I found for those of you who may be wondering the same things (Please keep in mind, this my experience with BEATS PRO. outcome may vary depending on whatever headphones you're looking to augment with this microphone:) The Y cable that youtube and amazon recommend you purchase alongside this microphone is NOT NECESSARY because it plugs into the xbox controller perfectly even without it. The microphone is built with a regular jack that has the THREE BANDS on it, just like the microphone that came with my Samsung Galaxy. I should also note that it comes with a Y cable that converts the jack for use with a computer or anything else that might need that sort of thing. Something else that was recommended to purchase alongside this microphone is an adapter for the jack that plugs into the headsets themselves. it's supposed to convert the TWO BAND jack into one with THREE BANDS. This is also NOT NECESSARY. I bought the adapter and tested the microphone with and without it.Turns out the headphones worked perfectly with and without the adapter. there was no real sound difference that I could notice, so it seems to just be a waste of 5 bucks for me. whatever though, better safe than sorry when it comes to these things. As for sound quality, this cable seems to be just as good as the original Beats brand cable that came with the headphones themselves. I'm super impressed with these, and I hope this review helps somebody looking to convert their beats into an awesome pair of gaming headphones.
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This thing has been great. It is very difficult for microphones to be loud enough when they are sitting on your desk and your mouth is far away, but with it attached to your headphones it picks up everything and is very clear. Great for voice calls. Now I can use my comfy headphones and have a good mic at the same time.
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This product is what every gamer or even non-gamers need if they want to use a microphone with their quality headphones. It truly turns any headphones with a 3.5mm (or even 2.5mm if you can mod it, which I will explain more about) into the best headset ever. First off, if you do use something like the mod-mic, you're sticking something onto the headphones, it will be a mess if you want to take it off and clean all the gunk off. Plus it adds two cords that dangle and get snagged on everything beside you or under your computer chair or something extra to trip on, just annoying. This thing adds a microphone but also keeps everything to one high quality braided cord. Secondly, this thing sounds amazing. I mean that in both ways, the voice on the mic sounds great and no loss of quality on the headphones. Like, legit, it sounds super clear. V-MODA did a great job in designing this for quality and practicality. How nobody else has made something like this yet that sounds this good is beyond me. It has a mute toggle and volume scroll on the line, which is awesome. The mic is so easily adjustable, feels like it would be annoying and flop down a lot because of how easy it moves, but it really doesn't. They also made it so you can plug it into your phone or anything that uses a 3.5mm jack that can use mic and headset or just headset. Or you can put that single 3.5mm jack into the included splitter for computer use. They pretty much thought of everything. Now, as other reviewers have said, I got this for my Sennheiser 558 headphones (it also works for the 598 and 518 the same way.) So because they use 2.5mm, I had to buy a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter (I got it on amazon, just get a 3 pack as some don't work right and cut out sound, if none work, send it back and try again) and you have to open the headphones up and remove the little black locking mechanism out so you can plug the adapter in it. I used a tiny piece of gorilla tape to make the adapter a little larger so it fits in snug without ever falling out. Also, they include a 1 year warranty. I'm a V-MODA fan now. Next set of headphones I get will be V-MODA. If you're debating on getting this, don't. Just do it, it's best thing you will ever do for your headphones. Pros: - Great sound quality - Single cord so no worry to have to cable manage it - In line mic mute and volume wheel - Can just spin the mic around if you don't want it near your face, no need to flip it up or anything. - Can use in phone/music player with mic or on computer with included splitter - Easily detach it if you want to plug another cord in. - If the cord does get caught on something while you get up or are moving around, it will simply just unplug out of your headphones instead of potentially damaging the headset or cord - Bends any way you'd like super easy but holds to it's shape - 1 year warranty Cons: - I truly can't think of a downside to this Apologies for the flash in the pictures, I did this review pretty late at night. Shows the little 2.5mm to 3.5 adapter with it.
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Style: Boom Mic
As a non-gamer, I bought this for video voice overs, skype, podcasting and for use with my video camera. Now, I think this won't work with my DSLR or Canon Vixia video camera, because they require a "line level" input from a powered microphone such as the Vid-Pro lavalier microphone sold on Amazon, which takes a button cell battery and has a tiny amplifier in it. Cons: The 1/8" Y cable that comes with this is terrible. It plugs in very tight, and will never come out. But it feels permanent, once plugged in, and barely comes back out. I felt like I might break the cable trying to remove the 2 little 90 degree plugs from my computer. I would suggest buying a new headset microphone adapter Y cable, for $5 on Amazon that has straight plugs. The cord is nice and braided which feels nice, but it does create a little bit of noise when you brush it against a zipper on a sweater or coat. Not a big deal. The microphone picks up a very slight echo speaking into my custom cubicle style work desk, unless I turn it so the microphone holes are facing up and down, which completely removes any echo. The microphone won't work with my Scarlett preamp designed for large professional microphones. Pros: This V-Moda microphone sounds more clear and accurate than a professional XM8500 stage microphone I recently purchased, which sounds very dense, muffled and muddy in comparison to the V-Moda microphone. After seeing how tiny the V-Moda was, holding it in my hand, I was extremely skeptical that it could reproduce the Human voice properly without seriously distorting the frequency and tone like many other tiny non-powered microphones or cheap headset microphones. Well, the V-Moda BoomPro is not an ordinary cheap microphone. It was engineered by real sound engineers, because it blocks background sound better than my $100 studio microphone, and sounds almost as clear. The V-Moda is more a bass and mid range microphone, picking up the lows very well, without picking up the really low lows that cause distortion and muddiness. It seems to have just the right frequency response for picking up the Human voice. It does not pick up the ultra low rumbling frequencies or the ultra high shrill background noises. Somehow, the itty-bitty tiny little microphone that is nearly invisible, it records big booming sound, and reproduces my speaking voice with clarity and authority. The V-Moda is worth every penny, because it is as good as advertised. Observations and Technical Breakdown: The V-Moda doesn't reproduce the Human voice accurately. None of the microphones I've ever used sound totally natural. Microphones convert your voice into an electronic signal, so there will always be some kind of coloration of the tone of your voice, music recorded in the background, etc. The V-Moda is a little bit heavy in the low mid range area, and a little light in the high end frequency spectrum. It's designed intentionally this way to prevent background noise and to prevent shrill unnecessary high pitched sounds from being picked up by the microphone. I am perfectly happy with the sound tone of the V-Moda for Skype calls and phone calls, as it's nearly perfect. Using default settings, the V-Moda sounds more clear and less muddy than my Behringer XM8500 microphone, which was pretty shocking considering the size difference. I've heard many small microphones that sound so muffled and terrible that they are mostly useless .The V-Moda sounds very similar to my inexpensive studio microphone, an AKG P120 condenser microphone, which uses 48 volts and a preamp, a Scarlett 2i2 2nd generation. For video voice over work, the V-Moda is too mid-bass heavy for my taste. Surprisingly the V-Moda microphone seems to automatically block out frequencies below 100hz, preventing any heavy bass noises from ruining the sound. But if you want your voice to sound absolutely natural, you'll need to do some editing in a sound editor or use some kind of an equalizer. This is for people who are using this to make professional recordings. Now, again I was skeptical that this microphone could be good enough to make a professional recording. But indeed it can. You will need to do a little editing. I'll tell you how I was able to do it. First, you'll need a new computer sound card. Unless you you have a really good internal sound card in your computer, or a professional recording studio, you might get too much line noise from the cheap internal microphone port on your laptop or computer. Every computer is different. However, my laptop and my PC computer both have a lot of line noise when I use a microphone on the factory microphone input jack. I tried using the V-Moda on a Sound Blaster Audigy sound card and there was absolutely no audible line noise or hissing. This is called signal to noise ratio. Add-on sound cards that you purchase separately may be better than the internal sound card, so if you get line noise, I would recommend either buying a Sound Blaster Audigy (Open your computer and check for open PCI & PCI express slots). They make PCI or PCI Express sound cards. Or you can get a USB sound card. I found a really good PCI sound card that also doubles as a professional headphone amplifier. It's called the ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card. You can get it here on Amazon: http://amzn.to/2AVdJQm This ASUS DG sound card is designed for headsets, it has a very high signal strength so it doesn't have any line noise, and it has a built in amplifier to power expensive headphones. People report a noticeable improvement using this sound card with headphones. The ASUS DG sound card actually has an adjustable output for different types of headphones, so it can work with cheap headphones or professional 600 ohm headphones which usually require an expensive external headphone amplifier. You can configure it for different headphone OHM ratings. I've never seen this feature on any other sound cards, especially internal factory sound cards. Sound Editing: Back to the V-Moda microphone. What makes a good microphone good is it's ability to maintain the information being recorded. If you lose certain frequencies or distort the voice too much, you cannot use sound editing to fix the sound. No amount of editing can fix a bad microphone, because the sound is lost before it gets recorded. The V-Moda handles sound editing extremely well. Again, I was shocked. It's not as good as my AKG P120, but it's close enough after editing, that no normal person would ever notice a difference. The V-Moda does cut off a lot of the high frequencies and it does boost some of the low-mids, naturally, due to its design. You won't be able to magically recreate the missing high frequency sounds, but for voice recordings, that's perfectly fine and even desired in most situations. High frequency sounds are rarely desired in voice recordings, and the most popular radio broadcast microphones today have a sound tone that is very similar to this V-Moda microphone, with muted treble. The V-Moda does't have an absolutely accurate sound tone, it sounds a little bit amplified in the mid bass area, but with some sound equalizer adjustments in a sound editor program, you can make the tone sound more natural, just by reducing some of the mid bass. If you just get a free program like Audacity, then you can record your voice, then edit the sound using the built in equalizer to get the exact sound you want. I am convinced that the V-Moda records with enough quality that you can safely edit the sound recording without losing a significant amount of the audio integrity. In conclusion: The V-Moda sounds slightly muted, slightly muffled, and slightly boosted in the lower-mid bass region. But it appears to be perfectly tailored to picking up the Human voice, and blocking out things happening in the background. It's obviously a very carefully engineered microphone, and is shockingly good for the price. Unlike other microphones which sound wretched and painful to the ears, this V-Moda microphone has a very smooth, very warm sound tone, that is very clear. I am so happy to know that engineers actually engineered this microphone, unlike 99% of the other microphones out there in this price range which appear to be random accidents, and have no ability to recreate the Human voice. You'll need sound editing to remove some of the mid-bass in order to make this microphone record more accurately, but with some sound editing, I think you can make this microphone sound good enough that you won't need to ever buy a more expensive professional grade microphone. I would consider this a professional microphone for home users and hobbyists. If you need something better than this, than I would suggest getting a dynamic microphone like the Shure SM57 with an extra heavy duty gray foam wind sock, a Shure SM7, or an AKG D5. Then you'll need a preamp like a Scarlett 2i2 USB, and a 15 foot XLR microphone cable. If you need super fine sensitivty and detail, then purchase a 48 volt powered condenser microphone like the AKG P120, and a microphone stand with a boom arm on it, then you can hear a pin drop, literally. You'll want to buy a Sound Blaster Audigy or the ASUS DG sound card if you are using a PC computer, if you hear too much white noise in the background in your recordings. Start first by turning down the gain, and looking for updated drivers for your factory sound card. Edit: 11/23/2017 I received my Asus Xonar DG sound card for my 5 year old motherboard with a PCI slot on Windows 7. The sound card microphone input jack used with the V-Moda BoomPro is absolutely crystal clear, without a trace of any line noise or white noise. This V-Moda microphone sounds even better now, more natural sounding, and even more clear. I am shocked at how much better a $30 sound card can make the microphone sound. If you are having sound issues or having too much line noise, or not enough gain, try getting a new sound card. V-Moda vs. Golden Age Project D2 microphone. I bought a new dynamic professional microphone and tested it against the V-Moda yesterday. The Golden Age Project D2 sounds much worse than then V-Moda BoomPro. The same for the XM8500, which sounds much worse, but better than the D2. Again, I am so surprised. The D2 microphone was $150, but it sounds like you are speaking into a plastic bucket, compared to the natural clarity of the V-Moda. The V-Moda so far, sounds better than 2 other non-powered microphones I've tried which are far more expensive. The ASUS sound card is not perfect, it has caused my computer to lock up a few times with a blue screen, if I try to use my Scarlett Focusrite at the same time, to record multiple devices at the same time. It also takes a moment to begin recording when you engage the sound card, because it has to charge up the capacitors. The Asus sound card software allows you to do realtime "EQ" adjustment of your microphone input, and it sounds excellent, with an improvement in the high frequency response of the Vmoda mic, which, for the price of the sound card ($30) is truly amazing. With the treble turned up, the Vmoda sounds even more clear and crisp. Conclusion: Get a new computer sound card, and don't worry about buying a professional condenser or studio microphone. Get the V-Moda.
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