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OontZ Angle 3 Ultra (4th Gen) Waterproof 5.0 Bluetooth Speaker, Two Speaker Edition, 14 Watts, Hi-Quality Sound & Bass, 100 Ft Wireless Range, Bluetooth Speakers by Cambridge SoundWorks (Black)

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  • A BREAK THROUGH IN STEREO MUSIC SYSTEMS WITH TWO OONTZ ANGLE 3 ULTRA SPEAKERS - The two speakers wirelessly connect together and play music with incredible left and right stereo separation; PLAY YOUR MUSIC IN TWO DIFFERENT AREAS SIMULTANEOUSLY - Set the speakers to each play in full stereo and place in two different areas up to 100 unobstructed feet apart. NOTE: Dual Mode is not compatible with previous generations of Angle 3 ULTRA speakers, only works with Angle 3 ULTRA 4th Gen speakers.
  • SURROUND YOUR PARTY WITH SUPERIOR SOUND Connect 2, 3 or 4 OontZ Angle 3 ULTRA 4th Gen speakers together in Surround Mode to play your music wirelessly up to 100 unobstructed feet apart. OONTZ APP Companion app lets you control the volume, adjust EQ, manage advanced functions like Dual Mode and Surround Mode from your iPhone or Android Smartphone. NOTE: Surround Mode is not compatible with previous generations of Angle 3 ULTRA speakers, only works with Angle 3 ULTRA 4th Gen speakers.
  • 100 FOOT BLUETOOTH RANGE - Play up to 100 unobstructed feet away from your device; our advanced antenna design combined with Bluetooth 5.0 technology provides fast connection to your device and an incredible wireless Bluetooth range, up to 100 unobstructed feet from your audio device. Take both OontZ Angle 3 Ultra speakers with you to the beach, setup near the poolside, in the car, boat & golf cart giving you the perfect portable stereo music system.
  • SUPERIOR SOUND QUALITY WITH RICH FULL BASS - Our digital audio processor pumps up the bass and enhances the clarity of the mids and highs; Each speaker has 14 Watts of power for a combined total of 28 Watts, that can fill even large rooms with high quality sound; the superior sound of the OontZ Angle 3 ULTRA comes from the dual precision stereo drivers and our proprietary bass radiator in each speaker, delivering distortion-free stereo sound even at max volume
  • PLAY UP TO 20 HOURS ON A SINGLE CHARGE - Play from morning till night with up to 20 hours playtime; TOTALLY WATERPROOF - IPX7 certified Waterproof Bluetooth speaker makes the perfect outdoor speaker for the pool and beach. Can be submerged in water up to 1 meter deep for up to 30 minutes; PLAY AUDIO FROM A VIDEO - connect your device or TV directly to one of OontZ Angle 3 ULTRA speakers using the 3.5mm audio cable. EACH SPEAKER INCLUDES a USB Type C Charging Cable and a 3.5mm audio cable.

Product Dimensions: 6 x 3 x 2.75 inches


Item Weight: 1.06 pounds


Item model number: SWOA3UDLB


Batteries: 1 Lithium Ion batteries required. (included)


Is Discontinued By Manufacturer: No


Date First Available: July 31, 2018


Manufacturer: Cambridge SoundWorks


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    • Decent (maybe not perfect, but it has"grown on me") sound quality, great build quality
Color: Black
Sept 1, 2022 - I have to say that issue i mentioned in the March update was likely due to a loose cord or something ... i make sure both sides (the other to the AC plug) is firmly connected and i have charged it a few times, including last night with my Android box on and it never stopped charging, going into pairing mode ... so that issue may have been on me ... (update removed due to length) basically while charging it'd stop charging and enter pairing mode whie plugged in, knocking out the BT signal to any other audio device i was using ... that WAS the issue i described .. again it was likely due to a cord not being plugged in all the way ... my fault I admit it may not have the most "clean" sound ...as in the low end can seem a little boomy at times and that may make people think it muddies up the high mids ... but you know what ... using this regularly i have gotten use to the sound and I like it ... sure it'd tweak the tuning if i could from the factory, but I remember mentioning this before ... just want to say it's basically a non-issue to me now ....I'd say audiophiles may not like the sound, but would they be looking for a speaker in this price range and expect perfection? March 2022 Update: The only issue i REMEMBER having was that sound/"boominess" where the lows/bass sometimes feel like they are bleeding into the low mids causing things to sound "boomier" then they should at times ... and really the sound profile I just describe is not perfect but I REALLY dont mind it or cant say "this sounds bad" at all. Not my favorite sounding speaker out of the few i have, but it has other Pros that that one doesn't (mainly i am thinking battery life) . I'd recommend this to anyone thinking of buying it ---------------------------- Background: I have a few BT speakers now, including a LFS (ASIN: B07BPXJYQY) Item model number 180; a Braven BRV-1, and three speakers new to me, which include a DOSS Soundbox Touch, a Tribit XSound Surf, and an Oontz Angle 3 Ultra. I have my opinions on some of these new ones already though I wanted to give them at LEAST a day or two and try different genres ... I may not have done what other reviewers have done and tested it say at full volume or say test the (??) Phone call sound of these, but I'd just use these like I normally would. First Impressions: This Oontz Angle 3 IS well built. You know that feeling where you get some say tech products and it just FEELS cheap... well I am not going to sit here and say they use the "most premium materials and this and that" but this thing just feel sturdy ... 100% (and i am NOT knocking the build quality of any of the others) this may be the most "rugged" feeling one .. MAYBE tied with the Braven at the very least. I am NOT going to test this but it feels like it could survive a drop and still be ok, even on a hard surface. ----------------------------- The sound quality - oh boy ... this is where I will try not to ramble but give my full opinion. There are times where this speaker (like listening to smooth jazz with it as I type this) sounds GREAT ... nothing "miles ahead" of the other speakers I listed but it sounds good. There are also other times when it just seems like it's tuned wrong. Now I have to mention other reviews ... while there are different factors that play into this ... the EQ setting in anything you pair this with, the quality of the audio of say local media, and other things have an effect on the sound. I think "this is by the best sound ever" AND "the sound is SO BAD, this speaker is trash" types of reviews are BOTH ones I disagree with ... but when the sound is off, this may be (with the exception of the LFS when you count the fact there is an annoying "electrical like" humm over everything no matter what i paired it with) my least favorite of all the speakers I listed, but when it doesn't sound off, i have to nod and be impressed. What happens in a way is that it's "too boomy" like it's trying to prove it has extra bass, when that genre, or song doesn't lend itself to sounding better with that extra bass. As a few others have stated, that extra bass tends to slightly (i don't want to excuse this or go overboard with this explanation) muddy up the clarity of the mids and highs ... I know this is not audiophile level tech but none of the other speakers I have playing the same tracks do that. I do have to note as this review goes on with this speaker playing as I type ... it sounds great. I ... I guess maybe when i get use to the way this sounds I will not be as picky. I do have to mention that I VALUE good balanced sound over just "bass for the sake of bass", and right now i hear a good "thump" where it's suppose to be in a genre like Jazz, but other tracks I have heard earlier today ... have that "too much bass, muddying up the other parts of the song" issue. I admit it's hit or miss having that issue. I also have to say that while some of the other speakers sound better with the same track and everything ... "muddying up" is not as bad as it MAY sound. I have heard some bad speakers and even when this sounds off ... it's like something I may be able to "EQ back into shape" There are times when it sounds off and it is almost like (I hate to go "audiophile" on people) certain frequencies are getting clipped or something ... it's like to prevent (the audio) from peaking and sounding bad that way, there is something that not reproducing all the sounds in a song. There were also times yesterday (please remember these are first impressions still) where what some others noted about the "wavy" type of effect to the sound, is something I noticed. Think of someone in control of the volume ... it's like it slightly dips and then gets back to normal then dips slightly and then goes back to normal. At NO time does the connection drop, but this is the best way I can describe this. I complain about all that just to repeat RIGHT NOW as I am typing, this speaker sounds great with random Smooth Jazz playing. Also something I noticed in reviews is that despite some flaws like I mentioned ... there does seem to be a wide (for it's price bracket and size) a "wide"/Full sound stage ... I mean it may not please an audiophile, but overall I think the sound stage, seems like it's coming from a physically bigger speaker. I have heard a Sony CFDS70 CD-Player Boombox speaker sound, when helping a family member with that product. Ths sound of that when playing a CD SHOCKED me ... I love Sony products and have a number of lower end wired Sony headphones, but the speakers on that "boombox" STUNK ... almost bad am radio quality at best. I mention this to say ... even when this Oontz sounds off ... it was no where NEAR that bad ... again I will say "this is the best sounding speaker" AND "this is the worst speaker sound wise" are both sorts of reviews I have seen that I just disagree with on both sides. ---------------------------------------- Comparisons (sound wise) to the LFS (MINUS that annoying buzz/humm it has), the DOSS Soundbox Touch and the Tribit XSound Surf. I admit two of these are just as new to me or near to it as the Angle 3 Ultra is, but I think I trust those more with how well BALANCED they are ... I actually thought the Soundbox touch was lacking in bass a touch, but after playing with that speaker more, i feel it's JUST right. The XSound Surf blew me away with the balance and clarity it has ... I admit I ordered a second one when i saw a great deal pop up. I think the sound is good/great/OK at times on this Oontz but I have to note .... I paid $16.99 (used: like-new) for the Soundbox Touch, and the more expensive Tribit was $15.99 (super great discount when i got it)... this Oontz was on a $33.99 (about $7 off the normal price) sale. I am just noting that "band-for-buck" wise .. I like the other speakers better. Even at full price that i see on Amazon the DOSS Soundbox Touch is say $27.99 ... with even an issue here or there with that, I think I may recommend that one more than this Oontz SOUND wise. If you want to play things loud say in a shop or something ... and WANT something more rugged .. the Oontz line may be what you want. All this saying the other speakers ARE well built too, don't get me wrong. ------------------------------- The buttons/ergonomics - I ONLY worry about the ends of the speaker and that rubber coating that is on it. EVEN THAT does not feel cheap or anything but ... it is that type of coating that has gotten REALLY sticky on me here in a humid climate, when on other products. Having said that I REALLY Like the button layout and just overall feel on the speaker. The only issue I have is when I have this speaker standing up (trying it that way) with the buttons on top, i sometimes have to remember what buttons is where, but it's easy to remember even in the dark when i find the side with the rubber feet. I have to not that another brand speaker that sort of looks like the form factor of these Oontz and some say sound better, have sort of little suction cup feet in each corner .. when they take it off the table there is always that suction cup type sound ... I have not had one of thews first hand, but I just like the Onntz's layer of padding or whatever going across each side that is resting on the table... personal preference maybe, but I just like Oontz's way of doing it better. One thing to mention is that with some of the other speakers I have noticed that since in most of those cases, the speaker faces forward so if you are not somewhat on the same level of the speaker (say the speaker is much lower than your head), the bass may seem like it's not as strong, but if you get somewhat "on the same level" it's fine. I say that to note how the Oontz's speakers face up due to the nature of the triangle shape ... I REALLY like that ... in different use-cases this may mean that first issue I listed with the other speakers DOESN'T happen since the Onntz's speakers face you with the bass radiator (i think that is what it is ), faces down. I am not sure if this messes up the sound where the bass radiator is suppose to be facing down against a solid surface maybe but ... ergonomically ... I like the speaker with the buttons on top, sort of standing up ... in some use cases if you don't mind the sound maybe not being what it should be due to the location of the bass radiator.... the look of the speaker standing up is nice too. ----------------------------------- Ports - I do wish this had a micro-sd card port on it but I have many portable music players that I could use 3.5 to 3.5 ... this is not a big deal but I just wish it had the option of using those cards to use only one device, versus two ... not a huge deal. I have not charged it up yet since it came 80% charged, but I may come back to update my experience with that. I do love how the ports are completely protected when the cover is on, too. ---------------------------------------- Connectivity - not sure about the history of the different generations of Ultra's but I see this has BT 5 and not counting my laptop which is sometimes "laggy" connecting to anything BT wise ... at least on the first detection/connection .. The Firestick, phone, and android tv box I have all generally saw the Oontz and was able to connect/pair with it pretty darn fast. ---------------------------------------------- Charging - like I said I have not had to charge this yet, but at least on my new Ultra ... this has USB-c which i like ... it's not a huge deal to me otherwise but I was in the market for a backup USB-C to USB-A cable anyway ... and now with this speaker, I have at least one more ... so that's a win. IF at medium volumes it can last anywhere NEAR 20 hours as some say ... I can forget the audio not being "perfectly tuned" and with some of the other Pros ... even if i end up gifting out vs keeping it myself ... I am NOT returning it. --------------- Waterproofing - I am still trying to get answers to this and I admit it's not truly important to me, but I see some places in Amazon's page that say Ipx-5 ... other reviewers say "IPX-6" .. the Oontz Page says Ipx-7 ... AND I DO THINK I know what may be happening ... the Oontz page says "4th Gen Oontz Angle 3 Ultra" ... I am thinking maybe some earlier generations are only IpX-5 ... I am not sure on this either may MAYBE some of the earlier gens were micro-USB for the charging port. I HAVE seen companies re-release new gens of older models and they say update stuff like that with the form factor and other things staying exactly the same. ----------------- Yesterday, when I did a few tests, I was disappointed with this speaker's sound, and while it sounds better to me today after taking a break from it, it may be only certain genres where it sounds "great" then others where it sounds a little bit off. I wanted to give the Oontz more time and testing but I was caught between A) considering "bang-for-buck" and the fact it was the most expensive and it's the one i think sounds off at times ... "Return it" ...KEEP IN MIND even IF i decide to return it ... I don't hate this speaker ... I really don't ... I just would say 'there are better options/deals that fit me better"...... (B) Do I keep this and gift it out? ... I mean for it's sound issues at times, it has some great upsides. (C) Do I keep it even if i don't need "yet another" (I knew that when i placed the order) BT speaker I have to say that RIGHT NOW ... despite the price and that I have other speakers ... even one on the way (my second Tribit XSound Surf)... I would say A (return it) is LESS likely than it was earlier ... the things I like about this speaker and the fact the sound on some things really doesn't sound as bad as it did before ... is making me like this speaker more and more. ---------------- The big question - Do I recommend this? ... to give a non-answer, answer.... MAYBE. I mean none of the speakers in this range are audiophile level with perfection across the board, and if you are considering this speaker first for maybe how rugged it is versus some others ... maybe the sound stage over "bass-mid-highs" balance is more important ... I say yes ... if you want a good small speaker that has great balance ... I may have to say "look elsewhere" even though i still note... this speaker NEVER "sounded like trash" to me. I CAN NOT recommend this speaker in all cases, nor will I say "avoid!" like some others do. If anything big happens I will update this review, but hopefully I will at least help someone get an idea of the experience with this speaker... even if i cant give a strong "this is great!" or "this stinks" type of overall rating to this speaker. ----------------------------------------------------------- Update: "Fix" found for a wavering sound issue at lower volumes: I too noticed a "wavering" sound and the simpliest way I can describe it is it's like there is a volume nob and someone is randomly turning it down and up again randomly ... I do admit this happened to me at lower volumes. I think I have a fix for that and I KNOW other reviewers mentioned this, in more negative rated reviews. I had my android box (what it happened to be paired to) at say 50% volume and the speaker at 50% or less volume ... when i adjust the speaker's volume the android box volume is not synced (that is good here) ...for the volume i wanted i turned the speaker down past where i had it and turned the Android box's volume control up all the way ... it was still a low volume like i wanted later at night, but the "wavering sound" was completely fixed. Hope that helps someone that may have already had their Oontz before be but have the same issue ... just play with the sound on the device and on the speaker and with some tweaks, I am sure others can fix it too --------------------- Update 2: I changed it from 3 stars to 4 stars Comparison between this speaker and a DOSS Soundbox Touch: These two seem to ironically have opposite sound issues (note: while the speaker I have that I haven't done a review on yet .. the Tribit XSound Surf, doesn't have this issue ... I am still happy with both of these speakers, AND the Tribit to be fair) ... The Soundbox Touch seems to be lacking in bass at times .. even when EQ'ed it can sound a little low ... I have to say the Oontz Angle 3 Ultra DOES still have issues I describe in my original review where it sounds "too boomy" (think of a subwoofer) where WHEN this happens it can "muddy up" the mids and the highs ... with the music not sounding as "clear and crisp" as it should ... BUT ironically at other times ... well I am not going to say the sound is my favorite of all my BT speakers but .. .to give credit to Oontz the music sounds GREAT ... it's hit and miss on the tracks you are listening to... the genre, etc etc ...personally there is a speaker that CAN sound boomy at times but still sounds clearer to me ... (again i haven't written a review on it yet) The Tribit XSound Surf. It CAN sound boomy depending on the genre, but it's done better then the Oontz in my view ... the mids and highs are still where they should be even if the bass on some lighter genres are boomy ...it's done in a better way that DOESN'T "desort" any of the mids and highs and I HAVE tried a few genres with the Tribit. I LIKE the Oontz ... they just need to figure the bass out ... even it was at that same boomier (than my other bt speakers) levels ... IF it didn't muddy things up (** it does most of the time but NOT ALWAYS ... sometimes it sounds GREAT) ... it's be so much better even WITH The extra bass ------------------------------------ Update 3: The more I use this (in part I do because of the DOS Soundbox's alarm almost when there is a low battery, and as much as I love Tribit's XSound Surf's) ... that doesn't have the greatest battery life .. really my only issue with that one. I have to say that I still think it sounds too "boomy" but ... I have to be fair to Oontz and say that this speaker has grown on me. I NEVER hated it, even with it's sound issue ... aka that "boomieness" ... but I always thought It was built VERY good. I am happy I bought this.... cant compare it to the regular Angle 3. ... I saw a special deal where the ultra that SUPPOSEDLY sounds better was only $7 more, so i got the Ultra. ----- Update 4: just a simple update to say I still think this speaker sounds "boomy" at times (like it's over doing it on the bass when it doesn't need to) ... HOWEVER ... this speaker has grown on me .... that was my main issue with it and now it's a "eh ... it's still not bad.... everything else ... say build quality and feel .... is really good in my view" ... show more
Reviewed in the United States on June 16, 2021 by Xmetal
    • Oontz Angle 3 Ultra vs JBL Flip 4
Color: White
BACKGROUND I'm an owner of the [non-Ultra] Angle 3, which I used the spit out of. I'm still a huge fan of it, and it's now lent to a friend. I eventually wanted to upgrade, so I considered a newer Oontz. First, I had to determine which was better: the [Angle 3] "Plus" or "Ultra". [TO CAMBRIDGE SOUNDWORKS: really bad naming convention, btw: just call them "Angle 4" and "Angle 5", will ya?] The research was clear: Ultra was newer, more powerful, and sounded better. I read the JBL Flip 4 had better sound, but was aghast at the price. I bought the Ultra. MINE WAS DEFECTIVE Bluetooth (BT) would connect with some transmitters, not with others. One it did connect to, I'd get dropouts, and weirdly playing at wrong speeds (both too fast and too slow); this was witnessed by another person. Sadly, a firmware update did not resolve the issue. Through lots of troubleshooting with multiple devices, I know it was the Ultra. DEFECTIVE DESIGN: RESONANT FREQUENCY -There's an odd physical resonance at a certain (low) frequency. At high volumes, the internal (metal?) frame audibly rings/resonates/vibrates on certain frequencies in the lower-end. How did that get out of prototype? I noticed this before the BT issue, and it was worrying, but not a deal-killer. I don't usually listen at higher volumes. DISAPPOINTING SOUND Let me say I really wanted to like this thing, as I'm a HUGE fan of the [regular, and cheaper] Angle 3. The [regular] Angle 3 is smaller, cheaper, is powered by a real 18650 battery [I know, I opened it to verify], has really good sound for its size [way better than anything I grew up with, for its size], and really reliable. While not perfect, I got a ton of use out of it. The Ultra [I think] has two 18650s, a larger frame [allowing more bass], more powerful, and theoretically should have better sound overall. Disappointingly, that's not what I experienced. BOOMY BASS The Ultra has a disappointing peaky-ness I'd say around 170Hz. This means "boomy". The true "low" bass is hard to find or boost. For instance, in a custom EQ program, setting a 40Hz filter all the way up, yielded no real audible difference (!), except distorting earlier. Bass only improved by boosting 70Hz. Sound actually IMPROVED by LOWERING the 40Hz filter to zero [40Hz is about as low as most people can easily hear, even though everything you'll read will say humans can theoretically hear down to 20Hz. That low bass note so common in slow rap is basically 40Hz.] With the Flip 4, bumping up 40Hz yielded an improvement in sound, not detriment, and no distortion (unless ridiculously high; I've tried it to extremes). As with any device, you might need a precut function in your EQ if you go crazy with bass boost, which some EQ's don't have. But this is more about the input signal becoming too high and less about the drivers themselves being overloaded. As much EQ'ing as I did [and I did a lot], I couldn't get the Oontz Angle 3 ULTRA to sound satisfying. DISCLAIMER: I'm an audiophile, I hear things most people do not, or if they do they may not care. Then again, if you don't really care about sound, what are you doing buying the Ultra, when it costs around 50% more than the regular Angle3 and is bigger and heavier. MORE BASS DOES NOT EQUAL BETTER BASS MIDRANGE DISAPPOINTING TOO The Ultra has substantially more bass than the 'regular' Angle3--so bassy to the point that it can be distracting on non-music sound where lots of bass isn't desirable (such as audio books). Even worse, the overweight of bass energy is in the UPPER bass region (more like a cheap boombox than a fine speaker). And perhaps most importantly, the MIDS never really sounded right to me either (just thin or muffled--not 'crystal clear'). When I FIRST was playing with the Ultra, comparing it to the 'regular', I was at first like "Oh yeah"--mainly due to "more" bass, but with time, I realized there was something dissatisfying about the sound (mids and low-lows). I was actually happier with the mids of the 'regular' Oontz, and of course there was the reliability/QC issue. MOST PEOPLE WILL STILL LIKE THE ULTRA! That said, I THINK MANY/MOST PEOPLE WILL BE VERY SATISFIED WITH THE SOUND OF THE ULTRA. Especially if they've never had a bluetooth speaker before. For most people, "good sound" is defined as "loud". That's all many people want to know: "how loud does it go"? I'm not one of those people--are you? If you buy a motorcycle, is that the only thing you ask: "how fast does it go?", or are other things important too? From the videos I watched, the Ultra has similar sonic characteristics to the JBL Charge 3 and Charge 4. These are large-ish BT speakers designed more to be loud, and provide a lot of "bass", than to sound great. Ultra is cheaper and smaller than the JBL Charge 3 & 4, but almost certainly not as loud. JBL FLIP 4 vs JBL CHARGE 3 & CHARGE 4 Enter the JBL Flip 4, which from my research kept coming up as the go-to speaker for those who really want 'good' sound quality over 'loudest sound'. I still think the asking price is gouging, despite the quality (I could be wrong), considering that these are still pretty simple devices, so I refused to pay the retail price. I took a risk and bought a returned unit. I also noticed there are a lot of ones dubbed "refurbished" out there--with mysterious origins. The interesting thing is that right now (January 2019), the JBL Charge 3 is on blowout/deep discount and often cheaper or same price as the JBL Flip 4. If you're debating between these two, if you just want big sound and don't plan on carrying it around a lot (it's pretty big), go for the Charge 3. If you are finicky about real audio quality and don't want to play really loud a lot, go for the Flip 4 even though it costs more. The Charge 4 (not Flip 4) is actually monaural (single speaker/not stereo) and yet still seems to retain some disappointing sonic characteristics of the Charge 3 (boominess & unsatisfying midranges), while losing stereo. I used to scoff at the idea of stereo in such a small speaker system, but after tons of use, I have to say, I was wrong. I can really hear stereo effects even in my 'regular' Angle3. Plus, if you get a Youtube video where some yahoo's sound card put the audio channels out of phase (rare, but it happens), you'll get no sound instead of weird sound. Or, any sound effect that depends on phase will be lost on you. In videos I listened to, the Charge 3 & 4 sounded like they had a sweater over the speaker, esp. when comparing side-by-side with a Flip 4; that's the best way I can describe it. That's similar to how I feel about the Angle 3 Ultra, after comparing it side by side with the JBL Flip 4. Leading me to believe the Charge 3 and Oontz Ultra basically have similar sound, although the Charge 3 & 4 probably go louder, and are more suitable for "party" type situations, where you need quantity over quality. JBL FLIP 4 VS OONTZ ANGLE 3 'ULTRA' I was going to return the Angle3 Ultra anyway, and had the luxury of demo-ing it side-by-side with the Flip 4. I'm sorry, I didn't make a video or audio recording, one reason being I didn't have time to find acceptable royalty-free music, plus other reasons. But I can tell you how it was. What people say about the Flip 4 is right. At sounds below 'loud', it sounds really nice: it seems better than the Ultra at all frequencies below the highest, and the Ultra didn't seem to best it in highs either. The Ultra goes a little louder, but both start to sound like crap at high volumes, even if they're not distorting: the Flip 4 definitely moreso. At some point as you continue raising the volume, the Flip 4's bass just stays the same, and only the upper mids and high frequencies get louder, with unacceptable resulting sound. I'm not sure if this is some kind of DSP [digital signal processing], or if it's naturally that way. Many people believe there is DSP in most of these high-end BT speakers, but if that's true, I don't see why they wouldn't have EQ'd the Flip 4 better, as it responds REALLY well to careful EQ'ing, to the point where I can make the non-EQ'd Flip 4 sound like 'crap' when doing an A/B comparison, and it sounds pretty darn good without EQ already. I am converted to the side-firing passive radiators JBL uses. It pretty much completely negates the vibration issue. Oontz is down-firing, which leads to several obvious problems. The Flip 4's BT range is AMAZING. When I could get a BT connection on the Ultra, its reception was, IIRC, comparable to the regular Angle3. With the Flip 4, I can take it into rooms pretty reliably that I couldn't previously at all, and can walk through the kitchen usually without it breaking up. Battery life of Ultra and Flip 4 are both very nice. I suspect both use two 18650 cells [a very mature lithium-ion platform used in laptops and electric cars], and if so, that's why. The 'regular' Angle 3 has one 18650 [verified], and still lasts a long time compared to the bigger blokes because it's more efficient. The reason I bought the original Angle3 was because it used an honest-to-God 18650 cell, instead of a more-questionable rectangular old-school cellphone style battery. Battery quality is more important than you think, and in the world of lower-end BT speakers, that is make-or-break. Making all that bass takes lots of energy. Read bad reviews of cheapo BT speakers, and you'll find a lot of the probs are due to poor internal, non-replaceable batteries. I'd still love to see a hi-fi BT speaker with a replaceable 18650 battery. I have a belt-clip "PA" speaker which takes a removable 18650 battery, and use it all the time for non-music audio. The Flip 4 comes with a lanyard, but I wish it had a lanyard attachment on both sides for sling-type or around-the-neck carry, like the [original?] JBL Charge [the one that looked just like the Flip 4]. Both are substantially heavier than the regular Angle3, but are small enough to carry from room to room without being a bother. For frequent pack carry, I'd go for the regular Angle3. Both Oontz varieties were prone to doing a weird audio shutdown/gate when fed unusual audio signals, such Line-in of a monaural telephone line through adapters. The Flip just plays it confidently out of one speaker and doesn't flinch. All 3 have a weird sound gate, which mutes the line-in after a (pretty short) period of not detecting audio, which means that quieter passages of audio don't get 'played' until you turn the volume way up so the speaker board can 'hear' the audio :( . The ULTRA needed to be played at higher levels for it to sound its best. I largely judge a speaker by how well it sounds at lower volume levels [more difficult]. Then again, at slightly higher volumes than its sweet spot, the Ultra's performance starts to deteriorate. (Not a good combo.) When you disconnect a line-in from an Oontz, it automatically goes into Bluetooth-searching mode. I find this mildly annoying. Flip 4 you have to manually make it search BT, but then again there's no way to unpair from the Flip 4 that I've found, without just turning the speaker off. The Oontz you have to hold the power button down to make it turn on. The Flip 4 you just press the button, and it's a really high quality feeling recessed button that won't get turned on accidentally. I wish the Flip4's Bluetooth button were the same, as I accidentally hit the Bluetooth Search button ALL THE TIME, esp when fumbling for the volume (which is easy to find on the Oontz's). JBL FLIP 4 ISN'T PERFECT EITHER There are things I DON'T like about the Flip 4. I love the Oontz's TRIANGLE shape: it's stable, and aims at you more than not. The Flip 4 can roll around, and you run into issues with cables sticking out the back (including danger of torquing them). The Oontz's have a MUTE function on Aux-In (very handy sometimes); I can't find a Mute function on the JBL. The JBL's fabric tends to attract dirt. The JBL makes a pretty loud noise on both bootup and shutdown; this is something Cambridge Soundworks learned not to do on earlier versions of the Oontz (<cough> original Angle 3). The Oontz Ultra has a noticeably much "quieter" alert sounds. I've woken up people turning the Flip 4 on and off (tip: the only way I've found to avoid shutdown sounds on the Flip 4 is to either turn it off while still connected to BT, or to disconnect BT and let do a timeout power-down ). Everyone complains about this, and JBL could easily change this with a firmware update. The Flip 4 disgustingly does NOT have APTX (for all that money you pay!), and the BT lag is atrocious. Videos of people speaking are not sync'd up. Workarounds for such audio delay are beyond the ability of most people. Apparently the Ultra doesn't have APTX either: still surprising, but it's less-understandable for the Flip 4, given that it's almost DOUBLE the already-expensive price of the Ultra. If I'm right, this means you'll get delay on the Ultra as well [I tested it mostly with music when I had it]. The only thing you can really do is watch the video through a program that can adjust audio sync [like non-mobile versions of VLC or MPC-HC], and to do that you'll most likely have to be able to watch the video offline (i.e. download it), which is usually not practical. I really wonder if the mfr's are purposely withholding APTx just to give us a reason to do 'another' upgrade. I prefer the button locations of the Oontz. The Oontz has a way to manually disconnect BT using buttons; I haven't figured out a way to do this from the Flip 4. The Flip 4 is VERY noisy: for something basically considered quasi-"audiophile", there's a ton of self-noise. All these BT speakers are pretty noisy internally, buy the Flip 4 the most. It's so bad that when I'm not playing anything, I sometimes point the Flip 4 downward, or just move it out of earshot. If you live in a noisy environment or are as hard-of-hearing as most people, you might not notice, but I live in a quiet environment and good hearing. The Flip4's self-noise becomes a REAL problem at lowest levels (i.e. when I'm trying not to wake someone nearby). The self-noise can actually all but wash out really soft sound. That's ridiculous. The Oontz Ultra had self-noise like any BT speaker, but it wasn't as much of a problem. The Flip4 is the most finicky about speaker placement of all 3 mentioned here. The high freq's mysteriously start to be less audible outside of the sweet spot of about 1.5 feet. Don't get me wrong, it's still nice, but I can actually pinpoint the sweet spot down to within ~3 inches! 360 degree speakers are made, but I prefer directionality for a variety of reasons, including efficiency, sound quality, and (at low levels) disturbing others less. That said, I recently was able to borrow a set of Taotronics Bluetooth headphones, and I have to say, they're better for not disturbing others when they're sleeping, and I'm quite happy with them, except I can't lie on my side with headphones, and I'm kind of anti-headphones in general, largely due to greater risk of hearing damage. If you have kids or naughty pets, the exposed passive bass radiators on the sides of the Flip 4 could get damaged. The Oontzes seem a bit more rough-and-tumble. The JBL Flip 4 seems more refined. The "manual" for the Flip 4 is horrible: very short on info, high on "hieroglyphs". It's like a really long, annoying, multi-language Quick Start Guide. I think Cambridge (Oontz) provides better documentation and their support (from what I've read) seems to be okay and US-based. (I did not contact them over the BT issue because I knew, after the firmware update, that nothing would fix it.) I find with all these speakers, it's easy for them to be upside-down, or oriented wrongly. This is especially true fpr the Flip4. I frequently grab for the invisible tactile buttons and don't feel them b/c it's upside-down. I first mistook the JBLConnect button as the Bluetooth button. It's not. That's why I needed the manual. I literally couldn't even see the Bluetooth button on the Flip 4. I still wish the JBLC button were the BT button. I'm not crazy about the JBLConnect feature and thought I'd never use it, but one night when trying to listen to a show with someone making dinner for me in another room, I could see the use. I ended up trying to aim the speaker for both of us to hear, but a built-in repeater would be nice; I just don't like proprietary. And if there is no delay problem with JBLConnect, which the JBL BT speakers already have, why can't JBL fix the main units' delay problem? Battery life meter on Flip 4 is way too optimistic and lies. When you plug it in, it shows its true state, which is usually 1 or 2 'dots' lower than it portrayed itself while not charging. Seems to be a linear voltage reading, but li-ion voltage curve is not linear! IMO, if you're even 1 dot down, you should charge it after you're done. Then again, with the Oontz line, you get less of an indicator--especially the original Angle3. I'm not sure about micro USB port sturdiness with the JBL. I almost boycotted JBL over complaints of too-weak USB ports on a variety of models. I'm SUPER careful about attaching & detaching USB on the Flip 4 (no more one-handed fumbling). The Oontz Ultra connector seemed sturdier, and has proved quite sturdy in my 'regular' Angle 3. With the Flip 4, the question is: did (almost) twice as much (retail) cost result in twice as good sound quality? I'd say NO, BUT--in reality, it was twice as much ENJOYABILITY. That's a fine distinction, but it's a real one. I'd say for double the price, you get about 50% better sound quality ("diminishing returns" is considered "normal" for "hi-fi"). But that 50% improvement for me, was the difference between being satisfied and not satisfied with the sound. I find myself listening to music more than I used to, just because I like the sound a lot (and I was able to make good EQ's with my equipment--farther than most people will go). I have less listening fatigue with the Flip 4 over the Ultra. In fact, the Ultra gave more fatigue than even the original Angle3. With the Flip 4, there is "less" bass, but it is "better" bass, and with good EQ, it can produce quite stunning amounts of realllly nice bass, with nothing lacking, amazingly. I mean, the sound is better than a lot of decent bigger boombox/shelf systems. In reality, because I got an orphan Flip 4, I only paid about 20 bucks more over the retail Ultra, but it was more risky. In my case, it worked out. For years (and perhaps still currently in January 2019), the (regular) Oontz Angle 3 (not Ultra) has been the best-selling BT speaker on Amazon, and for a good reason. The Ultra proved (for me) to be a dud design, considering the anticipated "improvements". Cambridge better get its act together, after embarrassing itself with the "Plus" and then replacing it with the "Ultra" like Microsoft replaced Vista. Don't be ashamed to get the regular Angle 3. While nothing is perfect, it's a proven design that is reliable and a great performer if you want smallish size and/or medium-low cost. Cambridge Soundworks is still making the regular Angle 3, despite 2 newer iterations, and that says something. I can fit a regular Angle 3 in a fanny pack, but really not larger models. If you want a more "party" type sound and don't mind something the size of a large water bottle, consider the Charge 3 at a discount now. If you want to sit with the thing actually pointed at you and actually LISTEN to the music, and can appreciate the difference, but still want something you can carry around easily from room to room, I think the Flip 4 is best. If you want a glorified desktop-only speaker, there are even larger models out there to consider. Where does the Oontz Ultra fit in? Nowhere, in my opinion! Cambridge, get yer act together! And improve your naming convention! I also invite Cambridge to get ahold of me for further feedback, and/or beta programs. ... show more
Reviewed in the United States on January 23, 2019 by ChurchOfJesusChrist.Net

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