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Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black

Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black

Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
Caldera Releaf® Neck Rest - Large - Black
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Features

  • Reduce Neck and Shoulder Tension: When your head remains in a static posture for a prolonged period of time, your neck and shoulder muscles often become tense. Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is an innovative, patented neck rest that provides a delightful lifting sensation by temporarily supporting the weight of your head.
  • Patented Flex-Tension for Perfect Fit: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest incorporates a patented flex-tension response that acts as a built-in spring to provide proper support for your head. This unique feature also allows Releaf to conform to the shape of your neck for a comfortable fit.
  • Can Be Used During a Variety of Activities: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest can be used in a variety of activities, including while traveling, reading, sleeping upright, and watching TV. This innovative neck-rest is also easy to carry and pack in luggage so that you can take it anywhere you go.
  • Lightweight & Flexible: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is made of polyurethane covered with nylon/spandex to be extremely lightweight and flexible.
  • Perfect for Everyone: This practical and convenient neck rest is really perfect for everyone! What are you waiting for? All you have to do is to check your size and pick your favorite color!

Description

Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is an innovative, patented neck rest that provides a delightful lifting sensation by temporarily supporting the weight of your head. When your head remains in a static posture for a prolonged period of time, your neck and shoulder muscles often become tense. This happens because your neck and shoulder muscles are exerting extra effort to counteract gravity’s pull and keep your head upright. Releaf keeps your head and neck in good posture by supporting your head’s weight, which can be up to 12 pounds, allowing your neck and shoulder muscles to relax. It incorporates a patented flex-tension response that acts like a built-in spring to provide proper support for your head. This unique feature also allows Releaf to conform to the shape of your neck for a comfortable fit. * Reduces neck and shoulder tension * Allows you to work comfortably on the computer * Features an adjustable contour fit * Lightweight and flexible * Easy to carry and pack in luggage * Practical and convenient * Comfortable and stylish * Multi-purpose and can be used in a variety of activities, including while traveling, reading, sleeping upright, and watching TV * Releaf neck rests are made of polyurethane covered with nylon/spandex. INSTRUCTIONS: Hold your Releaf neck rest in front of you with the chin indentation on top in front of your chin and the Velcro strap in the back, on your left. Wrap Releaf around your neck and fasten the Velcro ends in the back. Make sure you can easily put both index fingers between Releaf and your neck. Leave enough room to breathe normally and feel comfortable. Centering: Place a finger on each side of Releaf’s chin indentation and center it under your chin. Final: Pull the lower edge of Releaf down to fit comfortably under your chin. After you’ve adjusted Releaf, you’ll feel your head slightly lifting.


Product Dimensions: 3.2 x 4 x 6.2 inches ; 0.32 ounces


Shipping Weight: 3.5 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)


Domestic Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses. For APO/FPO shipments, please check with the manufacturer regarding warranty and support issues.


International Shipping: This item can be shipped to select countries outside of the U.S. Learn More


ASIN: B0027CU1QM


UPC: 885385427099 848296033360 679090230026 794628232805


Item model number: REL200


Customer Reviews: 4.1 out of 5 stars1,362 customer ratings


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #64,222 in Home & Kitchen (See Top 100 in Home & Kitchen) #85 in Neck & Cervical Pillows


Shipping

This product includes free shipping to all US addresses.


Delivery

Unless otherwise stated above, most products arrive within 2-3 business days. Larger items may take 6-9 business days. Tracking information will be automatically provided as soon as your order ships.


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Returns

This product can be returned within 30 days of delivery for a full refund. Please visit our returns center to begin a return.

View our full returns policy here.

Features

  • Reduce Neck and Shoulder Tension: When your head remains in a static posture for a prolonged period of time, your neck and shoulder muscles often become tense. Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is an innovative, patented neck rest that provides a delightful lifting sensation by temporarily supporting the weight of your head.
  • Patented Flex-Tension for Perfect Fit: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest incorporates a patented flex-tension response that acts as a built-in spring to provide proper support for your head. This unique feature also allows Releaf to conform to the shape of your neck for a comfortable fit.
  • Can Be Used During a Variety of Activities: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest can be used in a variety of activities, including while traveling, reading, sleeping upright, and watching TV. This innovative neck-rest is also easy to carry and pack in luggage so that you can take it anywhere you go.
  • Lightweight & Flexible: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is made of polyurethane covered with nylon/spandex to be extremely lightweight and flexible.
  • Perfect for Everyone: This practical and convenient neck rest is really perfect for everyone! What are you waiting for? All you have to do is to check your size and pick your favorite color!

Description

Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is an innovative, patented neck rest that provides a delightful lifting sensation by temporarily supporting the weight of your head. When your head remains in a static posture for a prolonged period of time, your neck and shoulder muscles often become tense. This happens because your neck and shoulder muscles are exerting extra effort to counteract gravity’s pull and keep your head upright. Releaf keeps your head and neck in good posture by supporting your head’s weight, which can be up to 12 pounds, allowing your neck and shoulder muscles to relax. It incorporates a patented flex-tension response that acts like a built-in spring to provide proper support for your head. This unique feature also allows Releaf to conform to the shape of your neck for a comfortable fit. * Reduces neck and shoulder tension * Allows you to work comfortably on the computer * Features an adjustable contour fit * Lightweight and flexible * Easy to carry and pack in luggage * Practical and convenient * Comfortable and stylish * Multi-purpose and can be used in a variety of activities, including while traveling, reading, sleeping upright, and watching TV * Releaf neck rests are made of polyurethane covered with nylon/spandex. INSTRUCTIONS: Hold your Releaf neck rest in front of you with the chin indentation on top in front of your chin and the Velcro strap in the back, on your left. Wrap Releaf around your neck and fasten the Velcro ends in the back. Make sure you can easily put both index fingers between Releaf and your neck. Leave enough room to breathe normally and feel comfortable. Centering: Place a finger on each side of Releaf’s chin indentation and center it under your chin. Final: Pull the lower edge of Releaf down to fit comfortably under your chin. After you’ve adjusted Releaf, you’ll feel your head slightly lifting.


Product Dimensions: 3.2 x 4 x 6.2 inches ; 0.32 ounces


Shipping Weight: 3.5 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)


Domestic Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses. For APO/FPO shipments, please check with the manufacturer regarding warranty and support issues.


International Shipping: This item can be shipped to select countries outside of the U.S. Learn More


ASIN: B0027CU1QM


UPC: 885385427099 848296033360 679090230026 794628232805


Item model number: REL200


Customer Reviews: 4.1 out of 5 stars1,362 customer ratings


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #64,222 in Home & Kitchen (See Top 100 in Home & Kitchen) #85 in Neck & Cervical Pillows


Shipping

This product includes free shipping to all US addresses.


Delivery

Unless otherwise stated above, most products arrive within 2-3 business days. Larger items may take 6-9 business days. Tracking information will be automatically provided as soon as your order ships.


View our full shipping policy here.

Returns

This product can be returned within 30 days of delivery for a full refund. Please visit our returns center to begin a return.

View our full returns policy here.

Features

  • Reduce Neck and Shoulder Tension: When your head remains in a static posture for a prolonged period of time, your neck and shoulder muscles often become tense. Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is an innovative, patented neck rest that provides a delightful lifting sensation by temporarily supporting the weight of your head.
  • Patented Flex-Tension for Perfect Fit: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest incorporates a patented flex-tension response that acts as a built-in spring to provide proper support for your head. This unique feature also allows Releaf to conform to the shape of your neck for a comfortable fit.
  • Can Be Used During a Variety of Activities: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest can be used in a variety of activities, including while traveling, reading, sleeping upright, and watching TV. This innovative neck-rest is also easy to carry and pack in luggage so that you can take it anywhere you go.
  • Lightweight & Flexible: Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is made of polyurethane covered with nylon/spandex to be extremely lightweight and flexible.
  • Perfect for Everyone: This practical and convenient neck rest is really perfect for everyone! What are you waiting for? All you have to do is to check your size and pick your favorite color!

Description

Caldera Releaf Neck Rest is an innovative, patented neck rest that provides a delightful lifting sensation by temporarily supporting the weight of your head. When your head remains in a static posture for a prolonged period of time, your neck and shoulder muscles often become tense. This happens because your neck and shoulder muscles are exerting extra effort to counteract gravity’s pull and keep your head upright. Releaf keeps your head and neck in good posture by supporting your head’s weight, which can be up to 12 pounds, allowing your neck and shoulder muscles to relax. It incorporates a patented flex-tension response that acts like a built-in spring to provide proper support for your head. This unique feature also allows Releaf to conform to the shape of your neck for a comfortable fit. * Reduces neck and shoulder tension * Allows you to work comfortably on the computer * Features an adjustable contour fit * Lightweight and flexible * Easy to carry and pack in luggage * Practical and convenient * Comfortable and stylish * Multi-purpose and can be used in a variety of activities, including while traveling, reading, sleeping upright, and watching TV * Releaf neck rests are made of polyurethane covered with nylon/spandex. INSTRUCTIONS: Hold your Releaf neck rest in front of you with the chin indentation on top in front of your chin and the Velcro strap in the back, on your left. Wrap Releaf around your neck and fasten the Velcro ends in the back. Make sure you can easily put both index fingers between Releaf and your neck. Leave enough room to breathe normally and feel comfortable. Centering: Place a finger on each side of Releaf’s chin indentation and center it under your chin. Final: Pull the lower edge of Releaf down to fit comfortably under your chin. After you’ve adjusted Releaf, you’ll feel your head slightly lifting.


Product Dimensions: 3.2 x 4 x 6.2 inches ; 0.32 ounces


Shipping Weight: 3.5 ounces (View shipping rates and policies)


Domestic Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. and to APO/FPO addresses. For APO/FPO shipments, please check with the manufacturer regarding warranty and support issues.


International Shipping: This item can be shipped to select countries outside of the U.S. Learn More


ASIN: B0027CU1QM


UPC: 885385427099 848296033360 679090230026 794628232805


Item model number: REL200


Customer Reviews: 4.1 out of 5 stars1,362 customer ratings


Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #64,222 in Home & Kitchen (See Top 100 in Home & Kitchen) #85 in Neck & Cervical Pillows


abunda_amazon_reviews EDS patient here. This is MUCH more comfortable than the standard cervical collar I was issued. The material is much more comfortable on my neck, and sizing is much better. Also like the darker color. Provides relief and protection. Far superior for those of us who need to wear a neck brace more often.;;Reviewed in the United States on December 16, 2017;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Far superior;;Melissa C;;;I bought this after reading the reviews in hopes of some relief. Well, this had made such a huge difference in my neck. I have DDD and arthritis in my neck and have also lost most of the natural curvature. I find it very hard to be comfortable while sleeping and wake-up with my neck hurting. Since I have been using the to sleep in it is vary rare that my neck hurts when I get out of bed. I told my chiropractor that it is making a night and day difference! It allows my neck muscles to relax at night. Ordering another soon! I sometime use it while watching TV and doing computer work. Real neck saver!;;Reviewed in the United States on April 27, 2018;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;My neck is thanking me!;;DMG22;;;I must admit I was skeptical when my wife purchased one of these neck rests based on a friend’s recommendations. But, we took a 5 hour flight, she slept using this, I did not sleep using another highly recommended solution, and my skepticism was replaced by jealousy. So, I purchased my own. I have tested it on a couple of transatlantic flights and some train trips and must say that after many years of trying to sleep on an airplane and often failing, I have found the perfect solution to getting rest on planes, trains, and other places where head flop is a problem. I highly recommend this neck rest.;;Reviewed in the United States on August 4, 2018;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Excellent solution to sleeping;;I. B. Wood;;;I have a long, international flight coming up soon and was looking for something to help ease the inevitable stiff neck pain I'll have. I had looked at all sorts of bigger neck "pillows" but just couldn't justify their supposed comfort with their size. After reading a bunch of positive reviews, I took a chance on this product and am very glad I did. It's soft and comfortable, and I know I'll have no issues with being able to wear headphones and this at the same time.;;Reviewed in the United States on March 3, 2019;;4.0 out of 5 stars;;Small enough to easily take on a plane;;Lydia;;;I have significant problems with my cervical spine, and sleeping in a seated position is dangerous for me if my neck isn't supported. I've tried many standard neck pillows, but they all had the same problem: at some point my neck would flop forward. They were also very bulky and could be hot. I have the Regular size in this neck rest and it's great. It's solved the problem of my neck flopping forward and has become a great sleep aid for me when I'm on planes and trains. It's pretty compact, too, and easily fits in my backpack. I own 2, and they seem to loosen up and become more comfortable over time. I wish I'd found this sooner. I credit it for letting me get in many naps and avoid injury.;;Reviewed in the United States on August 20, 2019;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Best travel pillow I've used;;GP;;;It seems like this will do a good job of keeping your head upright. I say "It seems", because it's too big for my neck and I ordered the smallest size. I'm petite, with obviously, a short neck, so it is isn't comfortable for me to wear for an extended period. At least not if I want do anything, like read until I doze off, because there isn't much allowance for movement.;;Reviewed in the United States on March 5, 2018;;3.0 out of 5 stars;;Definitely will hold your head upright.;;HotLatinGranny;;;I had ACDF surgery shortly before the Pandemic, so was not able to see my surgeon at 6 weeks on, and office is closed. I had been wearing an Aspen rigid collar since surgery. Around 9 weeks I tried no collar but with too much pain, so I decided to try this. It is perfect! I wear this day time, and the rigid collar at night or when doing anything physical. Without the guidance of my Surgeons office, was all I could think to do. There is less support than medical soft collars, but enough support and resistance for sitting and minor household tasks. The fabric is soft and comfortable, not too hot. I could tell the difference within moments of putting it on. The level of support is right for my needs as a rather sedentary lifestyle.;;Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2020;;5.0 out of 5 stars;;Perfect for light support. Comfortable.;;Mr max;;;I bought this on a recommendation, but I couldn't bear to have it on for even 5 minutes. There isn't anything faulty about the construction - I've bought Caldera icing therapy products and loved them. In order to use this, I had to adjust it snugly enough to support mu neck, which then felt like it was choking me. I asked 4 other friends and my husband to try it, and they all felt the same way. I couldn't give it to any of them.;;Reviewed in the United States on January 11, 2019;;1.0 out of 5 stars;;Might work for others, not for me;;NHP

Shipping

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Delivery

Orders placed now will arrive in 6-9 business days. Tracking information will be automatically provided as soon as your order ships.


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Returns

This product can be returned within 30 days of delivery for a full refund. Please visit our returns center to begin a return.

View our full returns policy here.

Top Amazon Reviews


5.0 out of 5 stars
By Melissa C - Reviewed in the United States on December 16, 2017
Far superior
EDS patient here. This is MUCH more comfortable than the standard cervical collar I was issued. The material is much more comfortable on my neck, and sizing is much better. Also like the darker color. Provides relief and protection. Far superior for those of us who need to wear a neck brace more often.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By DMG22 - Reviewed in the United States on April 27, 2018
My neck is thanking me!
I bought this after reading the reviews in hopes of some relief. Well, this had made such a huge difference in my neck. I have DDD and arthritis in my neck and have also lost most of the natural curvature. I find it very hard to be comfortable while sleeping and wake-up with my neck hurting. Since I have been using the to sleep in it is vary rare that my neck hurts when I get out of bed. I told my chiropractor that it is making a night and day difference! It allows my neck muscles to relax at night. Ordering another soon! I sometime use it while watching TV and doing computer work. Real neck saver!

5.0 out of 5 stars
By I. B. Wood - Reviewed in the United States on August 4, 2018
Excellent solution to sleeping
I must admit I was skeptical when my wife purchased one of these neck rests based on a friend’s recommendations. But, we took a 5 hour flight, she slept using this, I did not sleep using another highly recommended solution, and my skepticism was replaced by jealousy. So, I purchased my own. I have tested it on a couple of transatlantic flights and some train trips and must say that after many years of trying to sleep on an airplane and often failing, I have found the perfect solution to getting rest on planes, trains, and other places where head flop is a problem. I highly recommend this neck rest.

4.0 out of 5 stars
By Lydia - Reviewed in the United States on March 3, 2019
Small enough to easily take on a plane
I have a long, international flight coming up soon and was looking for something to help ease the inevitable stiff neck pain I'll have. I had looked at all sorts of bigger neck "pillows" but just couldn't justify their supposed comfort with their size. After reading a bunch of positive reviews, I took a chance on this product and am very glad I did. It's soft and comfortable, and I know I'll have no issues with being able to wear headphones and this at the same time.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By GP - Reviewed in the United States on August 20, 2019
Best travel pillow I've used
I have significant problems with my cervical spine, and sleeping in a seated position is dangerous for me if my neck isn't supported. I've tried many standard neck pillows, but they all had the same problem: at some point my neck would flop forward. They were also very bulky and could be hot. I have the Regular size in this neck rest and it's great. It's solved the problem of my neck flopping forward and has become a great sleep aid for me when I'm on planes and trains. It's pretty compact, too, and easily fits in my backpack. I own 2, and they seem to loosen up and become more comfortable over time. I wish I'd found this sooner. I credit it for letting me get in many naps and avoid injury.

3.0 out of 5 stars
By HotLatinGranny - Reviewed in the United States on March 5, 2018
Definitely will hold your head upright.
It seems like this will do a good job of keeping your head upright. I say "It seems", because it's too big for my neck and I ordered the smallest size. I'm petite, with obviously, a short neck, so it is isn't comfortable for me to wear for an extended period. At least not if I want do anything, like read until I doze off, because there isn't much allowance for movement.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By Mr max - Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2020
Perfect for light support. Comfortable.
I had ACDF surgery shortly before the Pandemic, so was not able to see my surgeon at 6 weeks on, and office is closed. I had been wearing an Aspen rigid collar since surgery. Around 9 weeks I tried no collar but with too much pain, so I decided to try this. It is perfect! I wear this day time, and the rigid collar at night or when doing anything physical. Without the guidance of my Surgeons office, was all I could think to do. There is less support than medical soft collars, but enough support and resistance for sitting and minor household tasks. The fabric is soft and comfortable, not too hot. I could tell the difference within moments of putting it on. The level of support is right for my needs as a rather sedentary lifestyle.

1.0 out of 5 stars
By NHP - Reviewed in the United States on January 11, 2019
Might work for others, not for me
I bought this on a recommendation, but I couldn't bear to have it on for even 5 minutes. There isn't anything faulty about the construction - I've bought Caldera icing therapy products and loved them. In order to use this, I had to adjust it snugly enough to support mu neck, which then felt like it was choking me. I asked 4 other friends and my husband to try it, and they all felt the same way. I couldn't give it to any of them.

Recent Reviews


5.0 out of 5 stars
By Melissa C - Reviewed in the United States on December 16, 2017
Far superior
EDS patient here. This is MUCH more comfortable than the standard cervical collar I was issued. The material is much more comfortable on my neck, and sizing is much better. Also like the darker color. Provides relief and protection. Far superior for those of us who need to wear a neck brace more often.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By DMG22 - Reviewed in the United States on April 27, 2018
My neck is thanking me!
I bought this after reading the reviews in hopes of some relief. Well, this had made such a huge difference in my neck. I have DDD and arthritis in my neck and have also lost most of the natural curvature. I find it very hard to be comfortable while sleeping and wake-up with my neck hurting. Since I have been using the to sleep in it is vary rare that my neck hurts when I get out of bed. I told my chiropractor that it is making a night and day difference! It allows my neck muscles to relax at night. Ordering another soon! I sometime use it while watching TV and doing computer work. Real neck saver!

5.0 out of 5 stars
By I. B. Wood - Reviewed in the United States on August 4, 2018
Excellent solution to sleeping
I must admit I was skeptical when my wife purchased one of these neck rests based on a friend’s recommendations. But, we took a 5 hour flight, she slept using this, I did not sleep using another highly recommended solution, and my skepticism was replaced by jealousy. So, I purchased my own. I have tested it on a couple of transatlantic flights and some train trips and must say that after many years of trying to sleep on an airplane and often failing, I have found the perfect solution to getting rest on planes, trains, and other places where head flop is a problem. I highly recommend this neck rest.

4.0 out of 5 stars
By Lydia - Reviewed in the United States on March 3, 2019
Small enough to easily take on a plane
I have a long, international flight coming up soon and was looking for something to help ease the inevitable stiff neck pain I'll have. I had looked at all sorts of bigger neck "pillows" but just couldn't justify their supposed comfort with their size. After reading a bunch of positive reviews, I took a chance on this product and am very glad I did. It's soft and comfortable, and I know I'll have no issues with being able to wear headphones and this at the same time.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By GP - Reviewed in the United States on August 20, 2019
Best travel pillow I've used
I have significant problems with my cervical spine, and sleeping in a seated position is dangerous for me if my neck isn't supported. I've tried many standard neck pillows, but they all had the same problem: at some point my neck would flop forward. They were also very bulky and could be hot. I have the Regular size in this neck rest and it's great. It's solved the problem of my neck flopping forward and has become a great sleep aid for me when I'm on planes and trains. It's pretty compact, too, and easily fits in my backpack. I own 2, and they seem to loosen up and become more comfortable over time. I wish I'd found this sooner. I credit it for letting me get in many naps and avoid injury.

3.0 out of 5 stars
By HotLatinGranny - Reviewed in the United States on March 5, 2018
Definitely will hold your head upright.
It seems like this will do a good job of keeping your head upright. I say "It seems", because it's too big for my neck and I ordered the smallest size. I'm petite, with obviously, a short neck, so it is isn't comfortable for me to wear for an extended period. At least not if I want do anything, like read until I doze off, because there isn't much allowance for movement.

5.0 out of 5 stars
By Mr max - Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2020
Perfect for light support. Comfortable.
I had ACDF surgery shortly before the Pandemic, so was not able to see my surgeon at 6 weeks on, and office is closed. I had been wearing an Aspen rigid collar since surgery. Around 9 weeks I tried no collar but with too much pain, so I decided to try this. It is perfect! I wear this day time, and the rigid collar at night or when doing anything physical. Without the guidance of my Surgeons office, was all I could think to do. There is less support than medical soft collars, but enough support and resistance for sitting and minor household tasks. The fabric is soft and comfortable, not too hot. I could tell the difference within moments of putting it on. The level of support is right for my needs as a rather sedentary lifestyle.

1.0 out of 5 stars
By NHP - Reviewed in the United States on January 11, 2019
Might work for others, not for me
I bought this on a recommendation, but I couldn't bear to have it on for even 5 minutes. There isn't anything faulty about the construction - I've bought Caldera icing therapy products and loved them. In order to use this, I had to adjust it snugly enough to support mu neck, which then felt like it was choking me. I asked 4 other friends and my husband to try it, and they all felt the same way. I couldn't give it to any of them.